Hey Warpslide!

On Thu, 22 May 2025 11:14:20 -0400, you wrote:

It looks like ESXi has a free version again, so considering going back
to that as it ran fine for years without any issues. I also have a
Windows Server 2019 license (which might also work to activate Server
2022) that I could use to run Hyper-V instead.

You may want to read up on what this free version offers now. I don't think it's anything like ESXi was, to be honest.

Does anyone have any thoughts?

XCP-ng is another option. While it doesn't support containers, I'm sure it's great at running VMs. One thing I liked about XCP-ng over Proxmox was that it had a web interface as well as a console interface (rather than just a login prompt and a bunch of manual commands).

If you have a different machine (like a desktop where you can run Virtualbox on it), you can spin up any hypervisor you want to test out, and make your next decision based on something /you/ like, rather than something you were told to like. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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It looks like ESXi has a free version again, so considering going back to that as it ran fine for years without any issues. I also have a Windows Server 2019 license (which might also work to activate Server 2022) that
I could use to run Hyper-V instead.

If ESXi is what works for you and your hardware, go that way. For ME, and my last-last-gen enterprise server hardware, Proxmox is the tits. It works, has plenty of expandability - and is the clear choice... but I don't care if you run Windows, Linux or MacOS... run what works for YOU. You made me want to play around w/ ESXi on my new Dell r730xd - and maybe I will. While I swear by Proxmox and Proxmox Backup Server, maybe something else works for you...

And thats fine. Run what you love. GO!



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It looks like ESXi has a free version again, so considering going back to

They do? I thought they were done.

What are the limitations?

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paulie420 wrote to Warpslide <=-

YOU. You made me want to play around w/ ESXi on my new Dell r730xd -
and maybe I will. While I swear by Proxmox and Proxmox Backup Server, maybe something else works for you...

I started off on ESXi/vSphere, and after running proxmox for a while, I
don't think you get much more with either package with one system. If
you have enough systems for a cluster, managing it all through vCenter,
setting up high availability, really using vSphere, it's pretty cool.

I haven't had enough systems to look at setting up proper clustering
with Proxmox, however. For my needs, being able to manually move a
server to another node for maintenance is good enough.

I keep wanting to get 3 1l USFF systems and create a proper cluster,
but mine works well enough and I hate replace crap that works...



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YOU. You made me want to play around w/ ESXi on my new Dell r730xd - and maybe I will. While I swear by Proxmox and Proxmox Backup Server, maybe something else works for you...

I started off on ESXi/vSphere, and after running proxmox for a while, I
don't think you get much more with either package with one system. If
you have enough systems for a cluster, managing it all through vCenter,
setting up high availability, really using vSphere, it's pretty cool.

I have 3 Proxmox nodes, so I run enough servers that that might be a bonus. I currently don't have HA but its on my timeline... I find that often what we start with is just what we always wanna use in the future.



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On 31 May 2025, Warpslide said the following...

I haven't moved off of Proxmox yet, I actually like it and kind of want
to try making it work.

I've read somewhere else to try disabling "Intel Turbo Boost Technology" in the BIOS to see if it helps.

I disabled Turbo Boost in the BIOS and haven't had to reboot the NUC once since then. I think the option in the BIOS was called "Intel Dynamic Power Technology". The description for that option says: "Setting this off will disable Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology and Intel Turbo Boost Technology."

I'm back to using the built-in NIC, with the modifications I made in /etc/network/interfaces, all seems to be working as well.

I'll report back if there's any weirdness, but it seems to be sorted.


Jay

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Re: Re: Proxmox -> ESXi or Hyper-V
By: Warpslide to deon on Thu Jun 12 2025 09:18 pm

Howdy,

I'm back to using the built-in NIC, with the modifications I made in /etc/network/interfaces, all seems to be working as well.

I'll report back if there's any weirdness, but it seems to be sorted.

Good to know - thanks.

I havent got there yet with my NUC - been busy with other flashing lights, but I have drained it so its ready for now.


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Re: Re: Proxmox -> ESXi or Hyper-V
By: Warpslide to deon on Thu Jun 12 2025 09:18 pm

I disabled Turbo Boost in the BIOS and haven't had to reboot the NUC once since then. I think the option in the BIOS was called "Intel Dynamic Power Technology". The description for that option says: "Setting this off will disable Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology and Intel Turbo Boost Technology."

I'll have to see if my Proxmox server (a Thinkpad laptop) still has any power optimization settings in BIOS. I need to take it down and blow the dust out, and probably swap out the thermal paste soon, I'll take a look then.
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